We all know there are men out there who don’t think women are much good for anything other than being available for sex whenever and however they want it. Roissy in DC takes this one step further and says women aren’t even good for that — at least, not as good as inanimate objects.
It makes you wonder about some people’s sex lives.
The basis of Roissy’s New Theory of Life, Dating and the Future of Male/Female Interactions as We Know It is that, with the increasing technological advances in sex robots (“she’ll move her limbs and gyrate during sex as well as talk dirty and respond to commands,” Roissy explains), men will actually no longer have any need for real live women. Given the choice between a sexbot designed to look like a supermodel or a real live “average-looking” woman, men will, in aggregate, choose the former, Roissy predicts.
His predictions are surprisingly (embarrassingly?) detailed, with sub-predictions for different castes of human beings, as he sees it. The basic premise is that unattractive women will be forced out of the dating/mating pool as unattractive and less-than-perfect men have sex exclusively with their sexbots; averagely attractive women will have to become more subservient to men in and out of bed just to be able to snag one away from his sexbot; and beautiful women will harem-style date the “alpha” males, who are the only ones who won’t rely on sexbots. All in all, this will lead to more polygamy, adultery, and male power.
Sexbots are a very real threat to the established order because men’s sexuality is so visually driven. The entire market structure of dating will shift seismically in the direction of men becoming choosier and less willing to please and women becoming looser and more willing to please.
It’s beautiful, isn’t it? It’s the perfect Nice Guy® fantasy, priceless in its equal mix of misogyny, insecurity, and entitlement (for a definitive rundown of the Nice Guy® phenomenon, see here). Yeah, yeah, well who needs all you real women when I can have sex with my Jessica Alba robot? Guess you’re all gonna hafta start putting out more and stop demanding treatment as an actual human being, aren’t ya now?
So let’s even just put aside for a moment here the fact that Roissy and his commenters seem to think that real live women are pretty much obsolete (except for making babies, as a few insightful commenters point out). Moving on to the “And People Say Feminists Hate Men” category … dear god, what kind of low expectations of the male species does it take to posit that a good portion of men, given the choice between sex/love/companionship with a fellow human and an inanimate object, would choose the inanimate object? Roissy Inc. seem to feel that no men actually have the capacity to feel emotions, care about people, desire love, etc. Real men are, in fact, only concerned with finding the prettiest possible thing, living or not, to stick their penises in. I mean, non-batshit-crazy guys, don’t you take offense to that? I’m offended, just on behalf of all the guys I know.
Of course, I take more offense to on behalf of women, who I’m pretty sure would be okay even if the whole futuristic sexbot scenario did play out. I mean, Roissy seems to believe that in a world where men showed no interest in sleeping with them, women would continue to be so desperate to snag a man that they’d either convert to polygamy en masse or revert back to an idealized 1950s style of submission. Sheesh. It’s as if Roissy’s never heard of lesbians.
i suppose i would be offended if i didn’t find (1) roissy’s whole idea to be completely absurd, (2) the logic and analysis from the post and the comment thread to be juvenile and ignorant (for example, to support the claim that polygamy was coming back in a big way one commenter cited the tv shows big love and girls next door), and (3) the idea that having sex with robots would ever be cool pretty hilarious.
let’s assume, like roissy does, that getting your groove on with hot-looking chicks is what it’s all about for most men. is it the conquest that makes it so desirable or is it the hotness of the woman? presumably sex is its own reward to a certain extent. so if a guy can have sex with a robot, and can imagine she’s not a robot at all but really a hot woman who moans and groans at the push of a button, i am sure he would. will it really replace “the chase?” if anything it would only replace masturbation. even someone as stupid and tragically unhip as roissy would be want a little more validation than can be provided by a battery powered hole, i would think.
well, yeah, maybe offended is a little strong. offense implies taking someone seriously. but you know what I mean.
I couldn’t decide between finding the whole post and commenters hilarious (they want to have sex with robots!) or vaguely disturbing (um, they want to have sex with robots …). I think I settled on a mix of the two.
one of the commenters there (yeah, i read the comments thread, in my insomnia last night) pointed out that, like you said, hotness factors aside, there’s still, like, flirting and anticipation and all that, and that factors into the excitement and enjoyment of sex. and then people responded along the lines of “flirting sucks. women make it too hard and I don’t want to deal with it,” which I translate to “I have no game, so it’s really ashame that people want me to talk to them before allowing me to fuck them. my live doll will never make me talk to her, ha!”
Obviously, this whole idea is looney. But he also seems to be missing an obvious point-what’s from keeping women in this scenario from getting our own male sexbots? What, we can’t be equally shallow?
what’s from keeping women in this scenario from getting our own male sexbots?
a couple orders of magnitude more difficulty in designing the AI.
I told my husband about this idea to get his perspective. He said, “I don’t want a sexbot, I want a Roomba on steroids, a chorebot.”
Me too.
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The post and comments over at Roissy’s are disgusting.
“I don’t want a sexbot, I want a Roomba on steroids, a chorebot.”
Yes! THAT is an invention that could drastically alter the established order much more than a sexbot.
I’ll allow myself to get pelted with eggs here, as I’ll openly admit to being pro-sexbot.
It’s not because I want to put women in their place, and that’s a silly concept in general that’s held by men who blame women for their own failings. It’s because sex robots are the best way for a somewhat socially avoidant person like me to have sex with a somebody who meets my needs. I will admit to having very extreme tastes, and my ideal sex partner is based on the exaggerated women featured on porn with clothing and “accessories” intact. I don’t find most women sexually attractive, so sex robots are a great way to get hot sexually attractive women without much work or by hurting women and by forcing them to act like porn stars.
I know that you’ll bring up flirting, but it’s just too hard for somebody like me, especially when there are so many other better men on the market. I suspect that platonic female friendships can make up for non-sex aspects of a girlfriend. I know it has for me with my female friends.
Damn bro, you hit something, lol. Im like you, in some ways, Im not afraid to talk to women or interact with them. The thing is that women are looking for mister 10 and sadly im a mister 4 or 5, im not hideous or nothing but hey I hit on girls when ever I get the opportunity. But most of them dont like my looks, and theres nothing I can do about that. They say men look for porno quality women but women look for the impossible in men. Ive come to the conclusion that I might have to settle for whatever comes my way, you know beggers cant be picky. Women may say they dont care about looks and say im some loser, creepy like dude with low self esteem but thats not the case im confident in who I am but I cant make women like the way I look. So yeah robots would be nice, not having to be looked down on because I dont look a certain way would be a good thing for a change.
That’s an inlleeigtnt answer to a difficult question xxx
david,
no eggs thrown here. i just think though that what you’re talking about here is masturbation and it shouldn’t be confused with sex.
if you feel that the robot is capable of fulfilling your “sexual” needs, then i would say your notion of sex is confused by an overly developed masturbatory tendency.
but if as you say you are “socially avoidant,” then it’s possible your sexual experiences are primarily masturbatory anyway. that’s not to make any sort of judgment on you at all. i don’t think that means you’re not desirable or lesser choice on the market. and you shouldn’t either.
David, yeah, what oldmancoyote said. I’m not entirely anti-sexbot as a whole, I suppose … just anti-people who think that women should beware because all men will find sex robots are infinitely preferable to real women. And that having getting off on some inanimate object — be that a sexbot or a dildo or whatever else have you — is, you know, masturbation, not sex.
I second what Elaine Vigneault said. If robot technology gets that good, what’s to stop women from using sexbots too? I admit I’m rather partial to humans myself.. but if men were to ever become so monumentally awful selfish creatures as this article describes, I’m getting myself a bot with perfect proportions who’ll do exactly what I want, and does all the housework as well.. who needs to put up with one of these men!
may i remind you that women have been using dildo’s far longer than men have had these “new” sex toys. and that it is a common joke among woman that “all i need is my vibrator men are useless”.
take a look at what you’ve witten.
“Sexbots are a very real threat to the established order because men’s sexuality is so visually driven. The entire market structure of dating will shift seismically in the direction of men becoming choosier and less willing to please and women becoming looser and more willing to please”.
pay attention to this part here<“dating will shift seismically in the direction of men becoming choosier and less willing to please and women becoming looser and more willing to please”.
ironically this describes how the majority of women are right now!! towards men , so open your eyes
and if women stops useing sex as reward and forms of control men would not be useing technology in order to take care of their sexual needs.
im a 25yr attractive male 6’1 athletic and well endowed, and to tell you the truth id rather save my dignity and use a sex robot than beg or jump through hoops for sex.
the number one thing you are concerned about on this topic based on what you have written above is that women will have to act as men do now , that being
” The entire market structure of dating will shift seismically in the direction of men becoming choosier and less willing to please and women becoming looser and more willing to please”
my opinion is that men will become “tighter” and less willing to please , and women will become ” more desperate, like men are now” and eventually, hopefully , women will see this and become less choosier, stop using sex as a tool, “or be replaced”
there’s only so much sexual fustration a species will take before looking else where for sexual gratification
STOP USING SEX AS A MEANS OF CONTROL/REWARD/ULTAMATEMS/PUNISHMENT/POWER ; AND MAYBE YOU WILL FIND A MAN THAT YOU CAN FALL INLOVE WITH AND PLEASE EACH OTHER, BECAUSE YOU BOTH ENJOY DOING SO , NOT BECAUSE ITS A FAVOUR OR CONTROL METHOD.
It’s hard to be offended when anyone that would replace a human being with a robot isn’t anyone I’d want to have sex with anyway.
What a freak.
And Adam, cry more.
8 years forward we have made impressive progresses in robot technology, human-like sexbots are expected to hit the market around 2020.
women these days are fucking self-entitled and arrogant whores. i for one welcome the new sexbots. they will replace women by the tens of thousands and will force them to actually get the fuck off their sorry asses and WORK for the relationship instead of using the man as a disposable income.
there will be male sexbots too, but they won’t be able to make a family for the women until that sort of technology develops. women need families. that’s how nature made us. but men don’t need women- especially nowadays with how women have a stranglehold on male sexuality.
fuck women. literally and then figuratively.